. >> general david petraeus was a champion of his troops and we want to get back to that story now. certainly a champion. we've heard this many times of his troops in iraq and afghanistan, but we want to talk a little bit about what's happening with him. back home certainly, his wife holly became one of the leading advocates for veterans. and now their lives have certainly been turned upside down by revelations of an affair by general petraeus and his resignation as director of the cia. joining me on the phone now is lisa de-paolo. she's a journalist that's written about the general. lisa, good morning to you. first, let me ask you what you think of this news. were you surprised by it? >> i don't know of anyone who wasn't shocked by this. he's such a straight shooter, a cornball really, a very decent guy. and yet, you know, this wasn't one of those things where, you know, you knew there must be something there, and yet, you know, when you really think of it, it's not that shocking. you know, it's very mr. appalachian trail here. in many ways this is the washington male curse. these